In the latest in a special series, a key figure in the security establishment tells Haaretz's Ari Shavit that if Iran is allowed to develop an atomic bomb, the entire Middle East will go nuclear.
By Ari
Shavit
The decision maker is a controversial
person. There was a time when he was regarded as a
savior, but right afterward he was seen as a pariah.
And again as a near-savior and again as a pariah. But
even those who loathe the decision maker admits that
he is exceptionally intelligent. Even his detractors
are aware that he possesses unique strategic
experience.
For half a century now, the decision maker
has been hovering around Israel’s core security
issues. And on a number of occasions, he himself was
at the core. Late one night at the beginning of this
week, the decision maker greets me at the door of his
home wearing light summer clothes and black sandals.
When he sits down across from me in his
favorite chair, he says that he’s read with great
interest the words of the different strategists who
were interviewed for this series. And that he respects
those who support an operation in Iran as well as
those who oppose it. But having given the matter even
more consideration, he would not budge from his
position and is absolutely convinced that he is right.
With a black grand piano behind him, the
decision maker spends the next two and a half hours
laying out his outlook.
“A nuclear Iran is one of the gravest
things that could happen to Israel,” the decision
maker begins. “If Iran goes nuclear, everything here
will be different. Everything. We will shift into a
different state of existence. If Iran goes nuclear,
down the road Israel will face a threat of existential
magnitude. The first aspect of the issue doesn’t only
concern us but the international community and the
regional alignment. I’m talking about the spread of
nuclearization. Up to now the world has found a way to
live with two recalcitrant countries: Pakistan and
North Korea. If Iran goes nuclear, the world will just
lose it. It won’t have any control over the nuclear
demon. We know this as a virtual certainty because
we’ve heard it straight from the horses’ mouths. If
Iran detonates a nuclear device, Saudi Arabia will be
nuclear. Within a few years Turkey will go nuclear.
The new Egypt will acquire nuclear capability within
less than a decade. People ask, what’s our rush? We’re
not rushing at all. We waited for years. If Iran’s
nuclearization is not halted now, before long we’ll
find ourselves in a Middle East that has all gone
nuclear.”
Threat to neighbors
The decision maker takes a sip from his
cup and forges right ahead. “The second concern is the
trickle of nuclear weapons to terrorist organizations.
Since so many countries that have such a low level of
control will have nuclear capabilities, these
capabilities could fall into the hands of terrorists.
Terrorists cannot be deterred in the way that
countries can exert deterrence against one another.
The implications of such a development would be
extremely grave.
“The third aspect is the threat to
neighbors. When you speak with people from the Gulf
Emirates these days, you see the fear in their eyes.
Iran is a tremendous nation of 80 million people that
was once a formidable empire. If it has nuclear
weapons, no one will be able to stop it when it
provokes neighbors and rivals. What happened in the
Rhineland in 1936 will be child’s play compared to
what happens with Iran. That will affect us, too.
“If we have to take action against
Hezbollah and a nuclear Iran announces that an attack
on Hezbollah is equivalent to an attack on Iran, what
will we do? I’m not saying that we will definitely be
deterred, but our situation will be different. Our
situation will be totally different.
“The fourth aspect is political immunity,”
he adds. “Let’s say that the Arab Spring skips over
the Gulf and becomes the Persian Summer. If Iran is
nuclear, the ayatollahs will be able to use
unrestrained brutality against freedom-seeking
Iranians. The world will stand aside, the regime will
survive and it will endure even longer.
“So when we put all of these aspects
together, we have to conclude that if Iran goes
nuclear, all the moderate forces around us will be
significantly weakened and heavy storm clouds will
gather over the Middle East. The region will not be
the same region and the world will not be the same
world, and our lives will not be the same either. We
will live under the shadow of a permanent storm.”
I’ve heard you and I understand, I say to
the decision maker. I agree: A nuclear Iran would be a
disaster and this disaster must be prevented. But why
should Israel be so quick to take the lead? Why not
let the Americans do the work for us, for them and for
the world?
“The United States and Israel currently
agree on the diagnosis,” says my interlocutor. “The
intelligence assessments are the same and the rhetoric
is practically the same. We and the Americans both
know that Iran is determined to obtain nuclear weapons
and that it is deceiving the whole world in order to
do this. We and the Americans both say that we will
not accept a nuclear Iran and that all options are on
the table. But the gap between the two countries
derives from the fact that the U.S. and Israel have
different abilities.
“As the Iranians continue to fortify their
nuclear sites and disperse them and accumulate
uranium, the moment is approaching when Israel will
not be able to do anything,” he warns. “For the
Americans, the Iranians are not yet approaching the
immunity zone − because the Americans have much larger
bombers and bombs, and the ability to repeat the
operation a whole number of times. But for us, Iran
could soon enter the immunity zone. And when that
happens, it means putting a matter that is vital to
our survival in the hands of the United States. Israel
cannot allow this to happen. It cannot place the
responsibility for its security and future in the
hands of even its best and most loyal friend.”
You’re describing a tragedy, I say to the
decision maker. Iran’s immunity zone versus Israel
begins a little sooner than its immunity zone versus
the United States. In the interval between these two
immunity zones, there is an election in the United
States that is paralyzing its ability to act in 2012.
And so, because of this gap of six to nine months,
Israel could find itself going into a terrible war all
on its own.
“I don’t see it as a tragedy, but it’s
true that there is a built-in gap here. The Americans
understand what we’re saying but they want more time.
Some people here think this is a plot, but I don’t
think so. In terms of sanctions and diplomacy, this
administration has done more than any other
administration. It has also prepared a military option
at various levels. But where you sit is where you
stand. And from the point of view of the American
president, the moment has not yet come. The United
States will be able to act next year, too. So the
Americans are telling us that it would be a serious
mistake to act now. After all, they could deal the
Iranians a knockout blow, while they think all we can
do is give them a black eye. So it would seem that it
would be worth it for us, too, for them to be the ones
to act and not us. But as a sovereign state, we’re
saying that on issues vital to our security, we cannot
place our fate in the hands of others.
“Five years ago,” the decision maker
continues, “the Iranians had 800 kilograms of enriched
uranium and today they have more than six and a half
tons. If we wait until next spring, they’ll have
enough 20-percent enriched uranium to manufacture a
first bomb. And the more they advance, the greater the
temptation they have to cross the line. To sneak
across. So that for us is a real danger − that soon we
will not be able to stop them. The problem will remain
serious for the world and for us, but only the world
will be able to deal with it. We will no longer be a
player at that point. For us the question will shift
from the realm of the decision makers to the realm of
the analysts and historians. We cannot let this
happen. So there is a genuine built-in gap between the
Americans and us.
“Ostensibly the Americans could easily
bridge this gap,” he believes. “They could say clearly
that if by next spring the Iranians still have a
nuclear program, they will destroy it. But the
Americans are not making this simple statement because
countries don’t make these kinds of statements to each
other. In statesmanship there are no future contracts.
The American president cannot commit now to a decision
that he will or will not make six months from now.
“So the expectation of such a binding
American assurance now is not serious. There is no
such thing. Not to mention that President Obama
doesn’t even know if he’ll still be sitting in the
Oval Office come spring. And if Mitt Romney is
elected, history shows that presidents do not
undertake dramatic operations in their first year in
office unless forced to. So the problem here is a
serious one. Israel has to responsibly ask itself what
a lack of action now would mean. Only a blind man or
someone playing dumb would fail to see that the highly
likely default is a nuclear Iran.
“I refer you to a speech that [former
Iranian president] Akbar Rafsanjani gave a decade
ago,” says the knowledgeable decision maker.
“Rafsanjani is perceived in the West as an Iranian
moderate. But anyone who reads the words of this
Iranian moderate will lose all illusions. He will see
that what we are facing is a unique rationality that
could lead to an apocalypse. For what does Rafsanjani
say? He says that between the Muslim world and Israel
there is no balance, and therefore there will also be
no balance of deterrence. Israel is not a superpower
with a continent-wide territory.
It’s not even Japan, that absorbed
Hiroshima and Nagasaki and within 15 years became a
world power. Israel is a one-bomb state. After a
single atom bomb, it will no longer be what it was or
what it was meant to be. A single atom bomb is enough
to finish off the Zionist story. In contrast, says
Rafsanjani, the Muslim world has a billion and a half
people and dozens of countries. Even if Israel strikes
back hard at the country that dispatched the bomb,
Islam will remain intact. A nuclear war will not make
the Muslim world disappear, but it will do irreparable
damage to Israel.
“Rafsanjani did not mention any other possibilities. But we know that there are other possibilities. If a bomb arrives at the Ashdod port in a container, it will be a bomb without an address. We won’t know which country sent it. We won’t know if it was sent by some terrorist organization that is not a state. This thing is not simple. A situation could arise in which we cannot exercise absolute deterrence. Therefore, there is nothing that frees us today from the need for cold, hard thinking about the implications of taking action against Iran, but also about the implications of nonaction. It’s a lot easier not to do anything. Doing is much harder. The doer bears a heavy burden of responsibility. But there are moments in the life of a nation in which the imperative to live is the imperative to act. So it was on the eve of the Six-Day War. So it was in 1948. And it may be so now, too.”
But what’s the point of acting, I ask the
decision maker, if all our action will achieve is a
very brief delay. The cost of an Israel attack would
be extremely high: a terrible blow to the home front,
with hundreds or thousands killed, the collapse of the
sanctions regime, the bolstering of the regime in
Iran, international denunciation of Israel. If all we
get in return for all that is a two-year delay in
Iran’s inevitable nuclearization, we come out the
loser. Rather than improve our strategic situation,
we’ll make it much worse.
The decision maker looks me fiercely in
the eye: “The question you have to ask is what is the
objective of the operation. We’re not fooling
ourselves. Our objective is not to wipe out the
Iranian nuclear program. But it must be understood
that the real story is the contest between Iran’s
nuclearization and the fall of the current regime of
the ayatollahs in Iran. If we succeed in pushing off
the nuclear program by six or eight or 10 years,
there’s a good chance that the regime will not survive
until the critical moment. So the objective is delay.
Even if you’re right and the delay achieved by an
Israeli operation is only two years, the story doesn’t
end there. The sanctions regime may be hurt for a time
but afterward it will recover. As will the diplomatic
pressure on Iran. As will the intelligence battle
against Iran. This is because the basic interests of
the international community regarding Iran will not
change. In the end, the combination of all of these
elements together will achieve the desired aim. It
will greatly increase the odds that the regime will
fall before Iran goes nuclear.”
But some argue that just the opposite will
happen, I challenge him. Yitzhak Ben Yisrael, Kobi
Richter and Giora Eiland, too, told me that the danger
is that bombing Iran will not stop Iran from getting a
bomb but actually hasten its building of a bomb. The
Iranians will gain more legitimacy and be more
determined than ever to quickly achieve their goal.
“Iran has waited 4,000 years for a nuclear
bomb,” replies the decision maker. “It has spent the
last 20 years creating its nuclear program. In the
past four years, this program has made significant
progress. But all along the way the Iranians have
shown caution and patience. No one knows what they
will do if attacked. But based on their past behavior,
it’s reasonable to assume that they would opt to
protect themselves even more and progress with even
more caution. They will also be very fearful of
American intervention. While Israel can only execute a
surgical operation to delay the nuclear program, the
United States can take action that would threaten the
regime’s stability. And in the event of an open sprint
to the bomb, the United States would be obliged to
act. So I think that the argument of the distinguished
people you quote is serious but does not fit the
Iranian history of action or the Iranian strategic
reasoning.”
But you haven’t answered my main question.
Even you admit that Iranian nuclearization is
inevitable, the counterargument is that Iran’s
nuclearization will be much more dangerous to Israel
if we bomb Iran than if we don’t. Even Yehezkel Dror
warned about a vengeful, nuclear Iran. Better an
Iranian nuclear bomb with no Israeli bombing in 2015
than an Iranian nuclear bomb after an Israeli bombing
in 2020.
The decision maker does not like the
question. He grows impatient: “There’s a logical
fallacy here. People presume that if we do not act,
Iran will not go nuclear. But that’s not the
situation. If we do not act, it’s almost certain that
Iran will go nuclear. If we do act, there’s a good
chance that Iran will not go nuclear for a long while.
Iran will react and a certain resentment will remain.
There will be terrorism. But the main power through
which Iran can hurt us is Hezbollah. Hezbollah can
operate against us even with no attack on Iran. It
might do so even if we act to prevent the transfer of
chemical weapons or sophisticated materials from Syria
to Lebanon. The public should not be subjected to
scare tactics.
“Israel is a strong nation,” he continues.
“We have good capabilities. The number of dead to be
expected on the home front in the event of war with
Iran, Hezbollah and Hamas is less than the number of
casualties in the Fourth Battalion of the Harel
Brigade in 1948. But in 1948 it was clear to all that
there was no choice. And that gave us national
strength and resilience. If it turns out that now,
too, there is no choice, we will also need that
national strength. Remember that in any dimension −
including in terms of preserving human life − dealing
with a nuclear Iran in a few years’ time will be much
more complicated than dealing with preventing a
nuclear Iran now. We mustn’t listen to those who in
every situation prefer nonaction to action.”
But Israel mustn’t go to war without the
backing of a superpower, I say. We take the risk of
people charging that we’re trying to force America to
join the war. We take the risk of America turning its
back and obliging us to deal alone with the
consequences of the action we took without
coordination with it.
The hour is late and the decision maker is
very direct and crystal clear: “We will absolutely not
deliberately drag the United States into war. If we
decide to undertake an operation, it must be an
independent act that justifies itself without igniting
some large chain reaction. A country does not go to
war in the hope or expectation that another country
will join it. Such an act is an irresponsible gamble.
But the question is how you define backing. Was there
backing in the Six-Day War? Do you think that in 1967
the Americans told Foreign Minister Abba Eban and
Mossad chief Meir Amit anything different than what
they’re telling us now? But then Eban saw difficulty
in the opportunity and Amit saw an opportunity in the
difficulty, and the Eshkol government made a decision.
And what was that all about? About the closure of the
Strait of Tiran? The sword hanging over our neck today
is a lot sharper than the sword that hung over our
neck before the Six-Day War.
“I promise you: This issue is being dealt
with here with the utmost seriousness. And our allies
have known for some time what our position is. If the
Americans decide that they are going to take action
soon − excellent. We won’t stand in their way and we
won’t insist on a blue-and-white operation. But let me
remind you that Ronald Reagan did not want to see a
nuclear Pakistan but Pakistan did go nuclear. Bill
Clinton did not want to see a nuclear North Korea, but
North Korea went nuclear.
“If Israel forgoes the chance to act and
it becomes clear that it no longer has the power to
act, the likelihood of an American action will
decrease. So we cannot wait a year to find out who was
right: the one who said that the likelihood of an
American action is high or the one who said the
likelihood of an American action is low. We can’t wait
to find out one morning that we relied on the
Americans but were fooled because the Americans didn’t
act in the end. We need to look at the reality right
now with total clarity. Even a cruel reality must be
looked at with total clarity. Israel is strong and
Israel is responsible, and Israel will do what it has
to do.”
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